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المنتدى : منتدى الاستضافة الشيعية الخاصة بخدمة الامام الحسين عليه السلام
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حديث أبو بكر وعمر سيدا كهول أهل الجنة

السؤال : استدل الشيعة علي بطلان حديث : « أبو بكر وعمر سيدا كهول أهل الجنة » . بأنّ الجنة تخلو من الكهول بغضّ النظر عن بطلان إسناده ، ولكن حديث : « الحسن والحسين سيدا شباب أهل الجنة » . يدل في ظاهره على وجود من هم دون الشباب في الجنة ، وإلا لاستغنى الرسول عن لفظ الشباب في حديثه ، وقال عوضاً عنها : « الحسن والحسين سيدا أهل الجنة » ؛ إذن فالحديث في ظاهره يؤكد حديث : « إنّ أبا بكر وعمر سيدا كهول أهل الجنة» . ولا يبطله ؟


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الحديث المزعوم :« أبو بكر وعمر سيدا كهول أهل الجنة من الأولين والآخرين عدا النبيين والمرسلين » . حديث موضوع في مقابل قول النبي صلى الله عليه وآله : « الحسن والحسين سيدا شباب أهل الجنة وأبوهما خير منهما » ، وهو واضح لكل متأمّل .
وقد صرح عدد منهم بصحة حديث الحسنين صلى الله عليه وآله ، وبضعف حديث أبي بكر وعمر ، ولمّ الحديث المزعوم العجلوني في كشف الخفاء ( راجع كشف الخفاء : 1/320 و : 2/3310 . وعدّوه في الموضوعات ! راجع الضعفاء للعقيلي : 2/345 ؟ ، والموضوعات لابن الجوزي : 1/398 ؟ ، والكامل لابن عدي : 2/381 ، والعلل للدارقطني : 3/142 ) .
وفي تلخيص الشافي : 2/219 : « أمّا الخبر الذي يتضمن أنّهما سيدا كهول أهل الجنة ، فمن تأمّل أصل هذا الخبر بعين انصاف علم أنّه موضوع في أيام بني أميّة ، معارضةً لما روي من قوله صلى الله عليه وآله في الحسن والحسين أنّهما سيدا شباب أهل الجنة وأبوهما خير منهما » .
وهذا الخبر الذي ادعوه يروونه عن : عبيد الله بن عمر ، وحال عبيد الله في الانحراف عن أهل البيت معروفة ، وهو أيضاً كالجار إلى نفسه ، على أنّه لا يخلو من أن يريد بقوله : « سيدا كهول الجنة » : أنّهما سيدا كهول من هو في الجنة ، أو يراد أنّهما سيدا من يدخل الجنة من كهول الدنيا .
فإن كان الأوّل ، فذلك باطل ؛ لأنّ رسول الله قد وقفنا ـ وأجمعت الأمّة ـ على أنّ جميع أهل الجنة جرد مرد ، وأنّه لا يدخلها كهل .
وإن كان الثاني فذلك دافع ومناقض للحديث المجمع على روايته من قوله في الحسن والحسين أنّهما سيدا شباب أهل الجنة وأبوهما خير منهما ... الخ . انتهى .
وقد رووا هم كما في الدارمي : 2/335 ، والترمذي : 4/86 ، عن أبي هريرة ، عن النبي صلى الله عليه وآله ، قال :« أهل الجنة شباب جرد مرد كحل ، لا تبلى ثيابهم ، ولا يفنى شبابهم » ، فكيف يكون فيهم كهول؟!


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من مواضيع : MichaelGow

MichaelGow
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رقم العضوية : 909568
الإنتساب : Jun 2023
المشاركات : 5
بمعدل : 0.01 يوميا

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افتراضي 8613607817113
قديم بتاريخ : 02-06-2023 الساعة : 11:38 PM


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المشكلة يااستاذ
انا كفرد عاش اكثر من الف سنة بعد الرسالة ونزول الوحي
وعشت عمري اعرف ان بعد الرسول الاعظم لابد وان يكون له من يخلفه .
وكل مااعرفه من الكتب المنقوله ومن تحاليل فطاحل الدين من العلماء والخطباء .
فأجتمعت المعلومات برأسي وتصادمت الافكار مابينها حتى رسى عقلي على جهه معينه وارساء عقلي
وقف من خلال الواقع .
ماهو الواقع .
...........
بغض النظر عن النواصب فيما قبل ولكن الدراسة والتبيان من (داعش) الدولة الاسلامية وهذا اسمها الذي
عاثت على الارض بفسادها .
وهذة الدولة الاسلامية عرفنا قادتها وفدائيها وجنودها .انهم اصحاب ماضي بشع وتقدمهم للحرب والتفجير مسّكر وحبوب هلوسة
كذلك الاخبار نقلت لنا من خلال السجن فالدواعش أو دولة الاسلام .يتزوجون بعضهم بعضا (رجل لرجل) وبقناعة ان لواطهم حلال لانهم مجاهدين كما يعلنون
وضاقت بهم السبل وفقدوا الجنس الاخر وهو النساء
الكلام كثير في مساوء هذة الدولة الاسلامية واعتقد الكل يعرفه عدوهم وصديقهم .
النتيجة من كلامي .
فهذة الدولة نبراسها ومقدسيها هم
عمر
وابو بكر وعثمان
ومعاوية .
من هنا آخذ قياس على ان سيدا كهول اهل الجنة انهم بالعكس سيدا كهول اهل النار وهذا الاعتقاد من اثارهم اواتباعهم .
الدواعش المدعين هم رجال دولة اسلامية
بمعنى كان اسيادهم عمر واشقائه ايضا يذبحوا الناس بأسم الله ورسوله .
.......
وفرضاً لو صح الحديث .
فمعناها كلنا في يوم القيامة مع حسنة ملص وصدام واتباعه كلنا بالجنة
ولما يجتمع البشرية قاطبتا بالجنة فتأتي الملائكة وتشهدنا على بعضنا .
ياناس يابشر كل واحد يعرف من أذا بشر أو آذى من بيت النبي اواتباعهم قولو لنا حتى نخرجهم من الجنة الى النار
وهنا تكون المسالة عادلة
بمعنى كل من يموت يبعث بنفس العمر ونفس الصورة .والفترة الذي نعيش فيها بالجنة... فيوجد هناك كبار السن بالجنة
ولهم سادة وسادة كبار الجنة هم عمر وابو بكر. وبالاخير وبعد الشهادة عليهم يساقوا الى النار تلكم اسياد الكهول
يعني يااستاذ من اي جهه افكر اجد هؤلاء الشخصيات مصيرها النار من خلال الواقع التي عشته بمساعدة النقل من التاريخ
شكرا لك ولموضوعك الرائع


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قيلَ لي : عيبٌ ..وكرّرتُ مقالي ...ثُـمّ لمّا قيلَ لي : عيبٌ
تنبّهتُ إلى سـوءِ عباراتي ..وخفّفتُ انفعالـي .
ثُـمّ قدّمـتُ اعتِـذاراً ...... لِنِعالـي !
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اخوان هذا العضو ينشر بالانكليزي اشياء خاطئة لاتناسب المنتدى نتمنى منكم
اخذ الاجراء معه .


توقيع : محب علي ع
صِحـتُ مِـن قسـوةِ حالـي :فـوقَ نَعلـي
كُلُّ أصحـابِ المعالـي !.........قيـلَ لي : عَيبٌ ..فكرّرتُ مقالـي .
قيلَ لي : عيبٌ ..وكرّرتُ مقالي ...ثُـمّ لمّا قيلَ لي : عيبٌ
تنبّهتُ إلى سـوءِ عباراتي ..وخفّفتُ انفعالـي .
ثُـمّ قدّمـتُ اعتِـذاراً ...... لِنِعالـي !
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